{"id":4279,"date":"2006-12-01T21:19:58","date_gmt":"2006-12-01T21:19:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/?p=4279"},"modified":"2025-09-30T02:22:26","modified_gmt":"2025-09-30T02:22:26","slug":"third_world_rel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/?p=4279","title":{"rendered":"Third world religious faith and first world arrogance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In keeping with the theme of the prior post on Africa and the undeveloped world, here&#8217;s a column in which a Catholic priest and sociologist &#8211; who has been writing for at least 40 years &#8211; is kind enough to accept the faith of southern hemisphere believers, as long as they leave the thinking to him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Limits of Tolerance<\/strong> is on the the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s free site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opinionjournal.com\/taste\/?id=110009328\">OpinionJournal &#8211; Taste<\/a> Here&#8217;s an excerpt, but it&#8217;s worth reading the wole column:<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>&quot;We will depend on them for vitality,&quot; Father Greeley predicted. &quot;But they will continue to depend on us for the ideas.&quot; <\/p>\n<p>To judge by a murmuring restlessness in the crowd, more than a few audience members were surprised such a remark. It seemed&#8211;how to put it?&#8211;patronizing. Do people in the Global South have no ideas of their own? Is theirs a faith of pure emotion? Catherine Barsotti, a professor at Centro Hispano de Estudios Teol\u00f3gicos outside of Los Angeles who attended the talk, told me afterward that Father Greeley is, generally, &quot;a voice of sanity in the Catholic Church, [someone who is] trying to get the church to hear people it doesn&#8217;t like to hear.&quot; Which is why, she added, &quot;I can&#8217;t believe he meant what he said.&quot; <\/p>\n<p>When pressed, though, Father Greeley didn&#8217;t take back his remark. Instead he went further, waxing eloquent about how people in South America have a &quot;whole different approach to religion.&quot; He marveled at the way that Catholics in Brazil ask people from &quot;all different faiths&quot; to pray for a sick child. He recommended going to Mexico &quot;if you want to find out what the church was like before Trent.&quot; (He was referring to the 16th-century council that codified so much Roman Catholic doctrine.) He claimed that Mexicans &quot;have patron saints for pickpockets and prostitutes.&quot; Catholicism in Mexico is &quot;a religion of joy and celebration. We have much to learn from them.&quot; Yes, it sounds like a compliment, but the condescension&#8211;those people and their quaint ways&#8211;is unmistakable.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; <span face=\"Verdana\">But persuading North Americans and Europeans to have more respect for newcomers may be a losing battle, according to Philip Jenkins, the author of &quot;The Next Christendom.&quot; Mr. Jenkins laughs knowingly when I ask him about this problem. &quot;Every time there has been a shift in Christianity, older churches have always adopted this very patronizing attitude.&quot; <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In keeping with the theme of the prior post on Africa and the undeveloped world, here&#8217;s a column in which a Catholic priest and sociologist &#8211; who has been writing for at least 40 years &#8211; is kind enough to accept the faith of southern hemisphere believers, as long as they leave the thinking to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4279","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4279","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4279"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4279\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9522,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4279\/revisions\/9522"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4279"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4279"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tomfarandasfolly.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4279"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}